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Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:43 PM
Plz answer me asap just wanting to know http://www.relocomotionltd.webs.com/ can I rely on this site?

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 08:45 PM
Arch89,

You're in the process of being scammed by a gang of very busy Cameroon petscammers. Please post the email exchange you have had with them here.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:48 PM
are u sure that they are scammers? :S Cause the other one i've chatted with seems was saying the truth.... >.< Anyway I was kinda unsure....

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 08:48 PM
Scam petshipper site copied on that of a legitimate pet shipper;


http://relocomotionltd.webs.com/
http://relocomotionltd.webs.com/onlinepayments.htm<=== PHISHING

Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:50 PM
and the legitimate one is the first one you've linked right?

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 08:51 PM
are u sure that they are scammers? :S Cause the other one i've chatted with seems was saying the truth.... >.< Anyway I was kinda unsure....

There is absolutely no doubt about it. They are linked to this gang (http://antifraudintl.org/showthread.php?t=31447) of Cameroon criminals.

Please post all of their contact information to help others to find the information on them.

Did you send them any money?

Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:52 PM
not yet..... but i wanted to know the legitimate pet shipper is the first one u've linked right?

Garreg Ddu
10-11-2010, 08:52 PM
@ Arch89 and Dodobird

I just ran a security scan on the link:


Surf with caution
During the last 7 days potentially active threats were detected on a subdomain. However, no threats were detected on the main site.
(updated Oct 09, 2010 23:59 GMT)

The data shown above is a summary of the last 30 days.

Compromised Web Pages
20
in the last 30 days

Threats found
10
in the last 30 days

Please check your AV is up and working 100%, scan your computers ASAP.

Garreg Ddu

Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:53 PM
omg u are scaring me XD

ErnestTBass
10-11-2010, 08:55 PM
They are scam, and also a sub domain, not a real domain name

No match for "RELOCOMOTIONLTD.WEBS.COM"

webs.com is the host

please do not do any business with them, u will only lose ur money.


etb

Arch89
10-11-2010, 08:58 PM
I'll post the contract tell me if it's reliable or not then...

ReocomotionLtd.
25 Wood Street, Liverpool,
L1 4DQ,

United Kingdom
Tel : (+44)7031888517,(+44) 1513241692

www.relocomotionltd.webs.com



11/10/2010


Dear Client,

This is to inform you that we have confirmed a reservation from Madam Cadedou Marta for the transportation and delivery of two Blue and Gold Macaw parrots to you at your home in Mx

IDENTIFICATION OF RECIPIENT (S)

NAME(s)...................... Mx
COUNTRY..........................Ix
ADDRESS............ .....Vx
CITY..................................Mx
Zip Code............................x
Telephone.......00x

Birds , documents and information

They are two Parrots, male and female with their names "x" . The birds shall come alongside the following items :

- Birth certificate
-Animal-passport
-Vet-certificate
-Change of ownership document
- A large Cage

Cost

Note however, that we cannot proceed with transportation unless the sum of
380 euro(380 €) is paid. This amount covers the transportation fee ,Delivery charges, plus medical examination and clearance charges of the Birds.


Payment Method
Considering your location and delivery schedule as per the sender's request,payment should be made via the Western Union services .


Visit an agency and make the transfer using the data below :



NAME :............................ENOW MEMFRED
ADDRESS:........................25 Wood Street
CITY:...............................Liverpool
POSTCODEl..........................L1 4DQ
COUNTRY:..............................United Kingdom

See below , a list of agencies around your locality where payment can be done :

xxxx

Contact us when payment is made. Scan and send to us a copy of the receipt from Western Union for our confirmation.

OR,

provide the following data as found on the Western Union receipt :

- Full names of the sender
- 10 digits Western Union MTCN (Number)

When payment is confirmed, we shall proceed with the routine clearance procedure and schedule a flight for your Birds. All flight details (including the Airway bill number,departure time,arrival time and delivery schedule) shall then be communicated to you.

Thank you for using our services.

Administration






RelocomotionLtd.
25 Wood Street, Liverpool,

UK L1 4DQ,

United Kingdom
Tel : 00447031888517
www.relocomotionltd.webs.com

Garreg Ddu
10-11-2010, 08:59 PM
I have submitted the site to McAfee for in-depth investigation. If they find intentional malware they probably will get the hosting ISP to shut the site down. AVG says it is viral. I have not got the Sophos report yet.

Please stay away ffrom that link unless your Anti-Virus and Firewall are 100% up-to-date and fully protecting your computer.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:03 PM
Do u think that the person who was trying to let me adopt their parrots is trying to scam me? cause we've been sending mails about14-15 each other.... and then we've been chatting on fb. but the thing that made me really suspiscious was the company....

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:05 PM
the one who was dealing with me nope but the company says that the payment method is via western union (as described in the mail)

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 09:05 PM
Arch89,

Any offer with a telephone begining with 4470 appears to be from the UK, but these numbers can in fact be redirected and answered anywhere in the world, is a scam.

Please give me the name of that person on Facebook

Arch89, the one who wants to give you the parrots and the company are one and the same person. It's always like that. Do not believe them.

Any company asking for payment via Western Union in pet dealings is a scam. You don't need to look any further. And please don't forget that the person giving those birds is the one who put you in contact with them.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:13 PM
I know they told me that they are living in liverpool now. And they'll be moving to italy within the next 4 months. But I don't know if she's saying the truth.... But according to the msgs we've sending on facebook i thought she is reliable... but if u tell me that's not so...

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 09:16 PM
If you read up on our petscam section, you will see that " a move " is often the excuse used in animal scams. Do not believe her.

There is no doubt whatsoever about this.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:18 PM
I post some of the latest mails she's been sending....

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14.21

hello Mxxx
we will have love to do that for you ,but the truth is that we do not have the money now,we have lots of bills to take care of
so may be you just follow the instructions from the transportation company and eveything will be okay.
waiting

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17.49

hello xxx
please try to do the payments quick so that the transportation company can proceed with the flight
we will be waiting to hear from you

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18.18

why can you trust the transport company and make the payments?
why do you want me to trust you when you can trust another person ?
why should you say the transport company does not exist?
why do you think i will be tryng to scam ?
it really saddens me to hear you talk like this
the birds are with the transportation company ready to be transported and now you say the transportation company does not exist
this is not actually how we wanted this to be , you really make me sad.
please if you think you will not be able to make the payments let us know
waiting




Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20.36

XXXX,
we must tell you that we really feel disappointed with your actions
we really trusted you so well and we knew you will really make the birds happy
now see what you have done
we called the transportation and they complained to us that they have tried to call your telephone number but you did not answer
so what do we do now?

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 09:21 PM
What needs to be done Arch89 is for you to break all contact with the person giving the birds and the shipper immediately. Stop answering their emails, block her in your facebook account and do not answer their calls.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm so sad it almost makes me wanna cry ç_ç She even assured me it wasn't a scam/fake..... and I did even tell her that if it was going to scam i'd be suiciding ç_ç

Zzbyrd
10-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Arch89,

I've reviewed the Facebook profile you sent me and it's fake. If you want more proof, contact your government authorities for information on the procedure to import this species of parrot into your country, you will see that it's not something that can be done overnight.

IT'S A SCAM. Cut off all contact with them.

If you really want a parrot, I'm sure you can find real shelters in your own country/area, where you could get a parrot that actually exists.

Garreg Ddu
10-11-2010, 09:35 PM
There is no such company as "Relocomotion Ltd" registered in the UK. It is a complete fake.

The address given, 25 Wood Street, Liverpool, does not exist. Wood Street does exist, but has not got any addresses in the range 1-77 as this part of the street is the service entrances to business premises on the next street - Bold Street.

THIS IS A SCAM. Please break all contact with the criminals, and provide us with all possible information about them.

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:37 PM
Thank You very much guys! You broke one of my little dreams but still saved my pocket. :D Love ya all *-*

Arch89
10-11-2010, 09:50 PM
fine added this to my favourite since i'll be looking for parrot even if i met this obstacle.... but nothing will ever stop me.... and i'll report on this forum any kind of scam i'll get in touch. :rolleyes:

Garreg Ddu
10-11-2010, 10:09 PM
@ Arch89

:welcome: to AFI - and we are so glad we have saved you from losing money to theis scam, if we cannot aleviate the emotional pain.

Please make yourself at home here, ask any questions you may have and we will try to answer them. The Admin Team will always try to repond to any queries.

Please feel free to contact any of the Admin Team by Private Message (http://antifraudintl.org/private.php) (top right by the login name welcome) if you need confidential help. There is a list at the link Your friendly neighborhood admin team (http://antifraudintl.org/showthread.php?t=2296).

Garreg Ddu

Goody2shoes
10-11-2010, 10:54 PM
Hiya Arch,

Welcome to AFI.

It was lucky for your wallet you landed here. So sad you did not get your parrot but hang in there, one will come along for you. May I also suggest you find some 'bird' societies and clubs in your area, either online or have a look in any bird magazine published in your country. Get in touch with the clubs and breeders and let them know you are serious and are prepared to learn to look after a parrot properly, including giving it a great, not just adequate, diet. Let them know you want to learn from them, put your name down for a rescue bird. Most birds won't come with a cage, so try to get the biggest and best cage you can, prior, so you have something to contain the bird in when you can't have him out on a perch.

If you read through the pet scams on this site, you will learn to recognize a scam. A term used often is "given out for adoption". If you see listings like this on pet advertising sites, report them so someone else isn't scammed. Along with using the time to learn everything you can about parrots, it could be an interesting way to pass some time while waiting for your own parrot.

And hey, please don't suicide over something like this, scammers don't care, but I'm sure some needy parrot would go without a great home if you did this.

All the best, visit often and drop us a note when you get your parrot.

snakeval
10-12-2010, 03:25 PM
Hi everybody,

glad I found this thread at the very last. I was going to proceed with payment today, but something felt tricky. If there's any way I can help you block these scammers, please let me know, I'll be very happy to help you. In the meantime, I'll put this fake lady on my mail black list.

Thanks again,
<removed - please don't post your personal information or name for your own security>

Arch89
10-12-2010, 04:26 PM
I'm glad it helped you aswell :)

Templar
10-13-2010, 12:06 AM
Win 32 seems to be in fashion with these Scameroonians.

Guys,

SCAN your PCs.

Aouas..
12-02-2010, 10:57 AM
100% scam.. tnx for your posts !!!


AwLocomotion Ltd.
25 Wood Street, Liverpool,
L1 4DQ,
United Kingdom
Tel : (+44)7031888517,(+44) 1513241692
www.awlocomotionltd.webs.com

02/12/2010


Dear Client,

This is to inform you that we have confirmed a reservation from Mrs Fanny Ruth for the transportation and delivery of a puppy to you at your home in Greece.


IDENTIFICATION OF RECIPIENT

NAME....................................M
ADDRESS............................DI
City.........................................KE
COUNTRY............................
TELEPHONE .....................+


Dog, documents and information

This is a female Labrador puppy named "Sibi" . The dog shall come alongside the following items :

- Birth certificate
-Pet-passport
-Vet-certificate
-Change of ownership document
- Crate

Cost

Note however, that we cannot proceed with transportation unless the sum of £240 is paid.
This amount covers the transportation fee ,attorney fee,cost of medical examination and clearance charges of the pet.

Payment Method

Considering your location and delivery schedule as per the sender's request,payment should be made via the Western Union services.



Visit an agency and make the transfer using the following data :

Name :............................Bernard Didier Bourgeois
Address :........................25 Woods street
City :...............................Liverpool
Zip Code........................L1 4DQ
Country :........................United Kingdom


See below , a list of agencies around your city where payment can be done :
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Contact us when payment is made. Scan and send to us a copy of the receipt from Western Union for our confirmation.

OR,

provide the following data as found on the Western Union receipt :

- Full names of the sender
- 10 digits Western Union MTCN (Number)

When payment is confirmed, we shall proceed with the routine clearance procedure and schedule a flight for your pet. This will take 1-2 days. Then a flight shall be scheduled for your puppy. All flight details (including the Airway bill number,departure time,arrival time and delivery schedule) shall then be communicated to you.

Thank you for using our services.

Carl Anderson


awLocomotion Ltd.
25 Wood Street, Liverpool,
UK
L1 4DQ,
United Kingdom
Tel : 00447031888517
www.awlocomotionltd.webs.com