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    Philippines Porn site recruiters/scammers

    This is kind of a strange format, that superficially appears to target perverts, but some of the modes draw in possibly normal guys from dating sites.

    The 'porn site recruiter' basically gets paid to get men to sign up at cam girl sites. They may operate individually, or in organised groups or 'offices'.

    They'll use various fraudulent modes to attract the man initially.
    Frequently they'll set up a fake profile at dating sites, using a sexy lady, most of the time not the person involved.

    The man contacts the hottie, or the hottie cruises dating sites, contacting men.

    They'll then get some version of a sales pitch...

    'Go to this site and vote for me as the cutest lady'

    'sign up here and help me pay for college'

    'Gee, I really like you, can you do me a favour....'


    With few exceptions, the lady rarely shows up on cam, sometimes saying 'you can chat with me when you sign up and I'm waiting for you.'

    (They may indicate they are some other hot lady on the site..)


    Both men and women are doing these scams. It's a job.

    So, other than being kind of fraudulent in the 'recruiting', why should we be interested in the victims, who appear to be perves wanting to look at naked ladies? I wouldn't be, except there are various other scams that pop up in the course of this.

    The primary one, is, the 'recruiter' is coaching the man to sign up at the cam site, usually with what seems to be a modest $1 or $5 sign up fee.
    While chatting with the man, the recruiter talks him through the sign up process....
    'Go to this page, honey. Register so you can vote for me. I'm waiting and wet already.'
    While the horny jerk is entering the CC details,
    'It will only cost you $X, and I'm waiting...'
    the recruiter strategically directs him pass some other Terms or Service page where he is informed that the '$1 sign up fee' automatically becomes $40, if he neglects to check a box or something.
    The scam is, the recruiter is directing the victim to skip the page where he will be given this option!
    The guy happily signs up, while chatting with the 'hottie', and maybe gets to chat a few minutes with 'her' afterward.
    Soon the victim notices he has been nailed with fees he didn't agree to.
    The cam site protests that he agreed somehow in the sign up process, and refuses a refund.
    If the guy is smart, he disputes the charges at his CC issuer, and gets the money back.

    Most of the above info is gathered from victim reports, and a little info I have from 'recruiters'. I haven't tried to sign up at the sites to see if the site is structured to allow this window of opportunity for the recruiter, or not?

    I have seen sets of scripts given to the porn site recruiters.....phrases to use in chat, and how to prompt the man to ignore or bypass certain signup pages that would tell him he will get nailed with additional fees, and also fraudulent 'stories' to us in the process.




    One format is the girl places a dating site profile in a false locality.
    She contacts men in that area. Let's say she claimed to be in LA.
    She may contact men in San Francisco. In chat, she'll claim she will be in that area for a few days, and name a well known hotel.

    'Baby I will be at Hotel X for a few days for a meeting, and will be lonely'

    There will be some involved chat about what may take place in the hotel room, then..

    'Baby, I need you to do me a favour, sign up at this site and vote for me as the sexiest lady. You know, my friend Barbi will be at the hotel with me? You may like her too! Hey, a threesome would be fun!'

    The jerk falls for it...signs up, bye bye money.


    Another version is the girl will promise 'free shows' via Yahoo or MSN cam, after he signs up.

    Lady_So_Sexy says:
    honey can u help me first to have votes to our site which only cost 2 pound after that all my show here on msn is free for u anytime u want



    Audrey Springfield: you only need to register to get it done babe just get the daqy trial or 24 hrs l9ive access in my cam ok?
    Audrey Springfield: http://www.ripaperveoff.com/a.php?r=7763&t=1&g=join check it out babe
    Audrey Springfield: just tell me if youre done so i can guide you ok ?
    Audrey Springfield: hold on im gonna lock my door
    Audrey Springfield: ok babe im ready
    Audrey Springfield: any luck ?
    Jack Kennedy: I am getting there.
    Audrey Springfield: okonce youre done check your email for the confirmation of your number id ok ?
    Audrey Springfield: ok babe what doy ou want me to wear ?
    Audrey Springfield: strip or naked ?
    Audrey Springfield: lol
    Audrey Springfield:
    Jack Kennedy: hold on one sec
    Audrey Springfield: ok
    Audrey Springfield: im just here waitng for you babe

    The men are given specific sign up URLS that have the code to pay the scammer embedded in them.

    If the recruiter is working for a 'boss', she gets a small cut, or a daily salary for meeting the qouta of sign ups. I don't know how much of the typical $40 fee the recruiter or 'boss' gets? Must be enough to make it worthwhile.

    I've been forwarded emails a 'boss' sent out to his recruiters, giving chat scripts, and lists of new sites to sign up on.

    The 'boss' also complains of being banned from recruiting for certain porn sites, since his sign up have resulted in too many cc chargebacks.


    As you know, we are constantly working to provide better payouts for our chatters. In doing so, we are constantly improving fraud catching techniques. We are also working hard to ensure that all agents are following rules. These rules need to be followed to maintain the santicty and profitability of our program.

    It has come to our attention that one of your agents has been breaking rules or selling our sites in such a way as to cause their account to have higher than average chargebacks. This affects us all and we've been instructed by our bank to terminate these accounts.
    Oh yeah, it appears the 'recruiters' call themselves 'chatters'.

    In one message, the 'Boss' informs the 'chatters' he is installing keyloggers on the office computers.

    on March 5 2009, we are goin to install a keylogger, to monitor all the things that happening on the office!!


    The 'chatters' aren't happy! The 'boss' replies...


    regarding on your comment ,,, i am the only one that authorize to view the keylogger, tell me why its not on security purposes so i can dumb this system,??

    my reason why i want this system..

    1. i want to monitor all of the chat conversation for avoiding western union,xoom or any money transferring issues.
    2. i dont want jeopardization( paninira sa tao)

    I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD!!! WHAT I CARE IS OUR OFFICE TO HAVE A SALES,
    I AM NOT A BS TO PUT THAT THING FOR ME TO HACK MY OWN CHATTER ACCOUNT MY CHATTER WHO MAKE A SALES.

    WHAT THE HELL IS ME IF I HACK YOUR ACCOUNT,, DO I GET SOMETHING IF I HACK YOUR YM ID? THINK THRICE NOT TWICE, DO I GOT MORE SALES IF I HACK YOU???


    HOW BOUT YOU COULD YOU TELL ME WHY ITS NOT ON SECURITY PURPOSES?????

    I'm not that worried about protecting guys who knowingly patronize cam sites, but, some of the fraudulent recruiting draws in guys who may not primarily into 'that', AND, the 'chatters' are doing some scamming on the side!
    They'll chat with the guys on a separate chat account,
    'Gee, I like you. Here is my other chat ID'
    and proceed to do normal 'filipina chat/scam' stuff on them.

    Guess what? These are 'middle class' type Filipinos and Filipinas, young, up to the mid to late 20's, who are making a living at this....not some starving cam girl, or jobless waif. They laugh at the victims, and I have even seen evidence they 'play' with them for fun.

    The cam porn sites are also a wonderful place to have your CC details stolen.


    So, for 'perves'........be warned. If you sign up at an cam site, check your CC statement.

    For other people, if you run into this....keep away. If the 'chatter' seems interested in you, even if you don't sign up at the site, just remember, they're only after you to make money, one way or the other.

    One owner of a large dating site tells me she has to constantly weed out profiles of these 'recruiters', daily, and some still slip through.


    I've even had one report of a cam recruiter giving balky customers stolen CC #'s to sign up with!!



    (Admins, this has some 'romance' content, but it's wierd scam in kind of it's own category. Move it where you see fit.)

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    Philippines Porn site recruiters/scammers.

    Although not mentioned, One of the things this type of 'chat' forums do, is to sign 'members' up for a continuing monthly charge.

    Knowing that a certain percentage of members would be too embarrassed, to go into their bank and cancel the subscription, by having to admit to anyone who is within earshot, that they wish to cancel their subscription to an 'Adult" site. They put it off.

    While the member dithers and puts off the day, their subscription just keeps getting paid.

    A nice little earner for the scammer, who then actually does nothing, while the money keeps coming in, and he can always say that the service is there for the member, so he is doing nothing wrong.
    A nasty scam.
    *What the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve.*

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