Beware Of China Internship Visa Scams

Discussion in 'Visa scams' started by Sherlock, May 22, 2015.

  1. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    As quite a few expats just found out the hard way in Beijing and Shanghai, private internship companies don't really care if you have the right visa, so long as they get paid their fee that ranges from $999 o $3,799. But since September of 2013 when China's new visa laws kicked in, the Public Security Bureau has been very strict on the enforcement side. If you get caught (not hard to do) in a random subway visa check or a visit to your job site, you will be arrested and jailed about 30 days. You will be fined $2,000, forced to plead guilty to a felony crime (if you want to get out of jail) and then deported with a 3-5 reentry ban to China - even as a tourist. Worst of all you will go home with a felony conviction that will haunt you the rest of your life, and never get another travel visa again since you will be flagged as an "illegal migrant worker" in all the international immigration computers.

    Long story short as a foreigner it is ILLEGAL for you to work as an intern in China UNLESS you fall into one of these three categories and have the visas shown below:

    A) You are officially enrolled in a University exchange program with an accredited university. In this case you must have a Q1 visa.

    B) You are an official registered "delegate" of a licensed foundation, charity, museum, NGO, or NPO, or a performer in an dance, musical, or art exhibition. In this case you must have an M visa.

    C) You were directly selected by a large international company like an MNC or Fortune 500 company for a pre-hire internship in which case you must have an F or Z visa.


    Third party agents, recruiters, brokers, and private international companies are NOT authorized to sponsor interns with any visa. If you are told otherwise it is a scam to be avoided. As you will see at other forums, one company was just caught forging invitation letters of companies in order to get visas for their clients. DO NOT EXPECT ANY SYMPATHY OR UNDERSTANDING FROM CHINESE POLICE. At the current time there is ZERO TOLERANCE on visa laws enforcement due to some recent rapes by foreigners and two expat pedophiles recently apprehended in 2013 and 2014 - with the wrong visas.

    IMPORTANT: If any internship company tell you to lie to any visa or government official about why you are going to China, it a scam that you should avoid and report here at AntiFraudInt.org and China Scam Patrol. The below attachment is a real email sent to a recent fraud victim.

    visa lie.png

    Of course, if you want to avoid the scam internships altogether, the best way to do so is to avoid all the third party brokers, agent, etc. and DIY - for free. It is not difficult and will take between 3-5 hours of your time by the time you finish doing all your paperwork and get your Chinese visa. These two links below explain how to do it yourself for free: http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com and http://freechinainternships.blogspot.co.uk . China is a great and fun place to explore, but keep their jails off of your site-seeing list.

     
  2. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    NOTE TO ADMIN: This is a Visa Issue...


    As quite a few expats just found out the hard way in Beijing and Shanghai, private internship companies don't really care if you have the right visa, so long as they get paid their fee that ranges from $999 to $3,799. But since September of 2013 when China's new visa laws kicked in, the Public Security Bureau has been very strict on the enforcement side. If you get caught (not hard to do) in a random subway visa check or a visit to your job site, you will be arrested and jailed about 30 days. You will be fined $2,000, forced to plead guilty to a felony crime (if you want to get out of jail) and then deported with a 3-5 reentry ban to China - even as a tourist. Worst of all you will go home with a felony conviction that will haunt you the rest of your life, and never get another travel visa again since you will be flagged as an "illegal migrant worker" in all the international immigration computers.

    Long story short as a foreigner it is ILLEGAL for you to work as an intern in China UNLESS you fall into one of these three categories and have the visas shown below:

    A) You are officially enrolled in a University exchange program with an accredited university. In this case you must have a Q1 visa.

    B) You are an official registered "delegate" of a licensed foundation, charity, museum, NGO, or NPO, or a performer in an dance, musical, or art exhibition. In this case you must have an M visa.

    C) You were directly selected by a large international company like an MNC or Fortune 500 company for a pre-hire internship in which case you must have an F or Z visa.


    Third party agents, recruiters, brokers, and private international companies are NOT authorized to sponsor interns with any visa. If you are told otherwise it is a scam to be avoided. As you will see at other forums, one company was just caught forging invitation letters of companies in order to get visas for their clients. DO NOT EXPECT ANY SYMPATHY OR UNDERSTANDING FROM CHINESE POLICE. At the current time there is ZERO TOLERANCE on visa laws enforcement due to some recent rapes by foreigners and two expat pedophiles recently apprehended in 2013 and 2014 - with the wrong visas. Also beware of any China Internship company that send you a Chinese Visa with instructions to peel off the back paper and adhere it to the first empty page in your passport. This is a certain scam as well. A real Chinese visa looks like this and can only be obtained from a Chinese Embassy or Consulate:

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    IMPORTANT: If any internship company tells you to lie to any visa or government official about why you are going to China, it is a scam that you should avoid and report here at AntiFraudInt.org and China Scam Patrol. The below attachment is a real email sent to a recent fraud victim.

    [​IMG]

    Of course, if you want to avoid the scam internships altogether, the best way to do so is to avoid all the third party brokers, agent, etc. and DIY - for free. It is not difficult and will take between 3-5 hours of your time by the time you finish doing all your paperwork and get your Chinese visa. These two links below explain how to do it yourself for free: http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com and http://freechinainternships.blogspot.co.uk . China is a great and fun place to explore, but keep their jails off of your site-seeing list.
     
  3. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    Last edited: Jun 10, 2015
  4. H8Fraud

    H8Fraud New Member

    I'm glad I found this as I've been contacted a bunch of times about internships in China and was actually considering it. I bet a lot of other fell victim to this scam.
     
  5. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    I will avoid naming the names here although their is a blacklist of over 400 "black" (unlicensed) China job agents peddling what appears to be "great-pay teacher jobs" and many do not even require up-front fees. But according to China Scam Patrol and the China Foreign Teachers Union, more than 95% of these job ads are scams and deliberately do not tell applicants that they MUST have a REAL bachelor degree and a Z visa (work visa). They only tell the newbie wannabe foreign teacher what they want them to know. Why?

    Because aside from the $500 placement fee the agent collects from the school, they will sell a fake diploma to any applicant who doesn't have one, and then offer and obtain for them a 90 day "F" or "L" visa which will get the new teacher into the country, but give them a 50% chance of arrest as this below post from China Scam Patrol explains quite well...

    "China to deport 3,000 illegal foreign teachers for fake diplomas and wrong visas"

    This may be good or bad news for you depending if you are one of the 20,000 foreigners legally teaching in China or one of the 10,000 expats who used fake diplomas or TEFL certificates to get your visa to work in China.

    We were recently "unofficially" advised that a new 500 member PSB task force will be launched on March 1, 2016 to hunt down, arrest, and deport any expat teacher using false documents (or who doesn't have a valid Z visa) This will be a nation-wide sweep according to a Captain I the PSB whose true name was not given although we inspected his government credentials when he agreed to a secret 90 minute interview we waited six months to get.

    How will they find the fake teachers? In short, any way they can! But the Captain said they would...

    1. Expand the sting operations that proved successful in arresting over 3,000 expats in 2014 and 2015 with more fake job ads and even setting up booths at job fairs in major China cities.

    2. Copy cell phone and email data from every black China job agent they arrest or question.

    3. By promoting their existing "Reward Program" that pays 10,000 yuan to anyone who turns in a fake foreign teacher

    4. Monitoring emails of foreigners that contain red flag words like "replica", "fake", "reproduction" as well as "fake", "genuine", and "diploma" and "certificate".

    5. Resume reviews conducted randomly at schools and principals who refuse to cooperate will be fined 50,000 rmb per violation.

    He also alluded to a new set of tricks and traps that have not been used yet, but somehow it will involve an email and Skype marketing campaign, perhaps of a school that really does not exist.

    What created this new PSB zeal? Over 2,000 complaints to the Minister of Education from angry mothers, one of whom happened to be the wife of a Mayor whose kid was being tutored by a girl who turned out to be using a fake diploma from NYU! Thanks to Wei Xin, that story spurred a bunch of written complaints and yet other mothers complained about 3 dozen Chinese "International Schools" and companies falsely claiming to be "partners" and "affiliates" of China's Ministry of Education.

    Now the jig is up, and if you are not working legally in China, now would be a great time for you to take a "leave of absence" and exit voluntarily so you are not deported as a convict felon. For those of you working within the Chinese law you will soon have a great reason to ask for a raise because the PSB captain said they will not stop until they reach their annual quota of 3,000 expat deportations. The below links relate to over 5,000 previous deportations of foreign teachers from China:

    http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/topic191151.html
    http://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/chi ... e-psb.html
    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?6247 ... Sting-Scam!
    https://www.eslbase.com/forum/viewtopic ... -arrested/
    http://www.vice.com/read/the-chinese-es ... -china-127
    http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14677
    http://www.tefl.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6479
    http://onestop.globaltimes.cn/whats-it- ... rom-china/
    https://thenanfang.com/cops-arrest-undocumented-english-teachers-in-shenzhen/
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141016005338AA5kONh
    https://www.eslbase.com/forum/viewtopic/china-school-scam/
     

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