this is how i lost 3000 USD in order to buy copper scrap for my business purpose

Discussion in 'General scams' started by munshiexim, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. munshiexim

    munshiexim New Member

    i am a merchant importer of scrap based in gujrat,india.

    i have already met with fraud and lost some money.

    i want to use your services to help me prevent from these frauds.

    the following 2 companies

    www.v-marine.ru

    www.stockwaste.ru

    have cheated me by offering copper wire scrap of 99% purity at 200 USD/MT

    i am still recieving various offers from malaysian,chinese and african
    suppliers.

    all supply me goods at lower price than LME

    some have even agreed with SGS report for quality and quantity and
    payment by L/C

    but now i face trouble in trusting people.

    please give me some tips which help me do my business safely
     
  2. Lioness1

    Lioness1 Banned

    @munshiexim

    First welcome on Afi. Sorry what happened to you. For our proof following is needed urgently:

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    and just all you have...All here on board, some with a long lasting experience in helping victims, will support and help you. Thank you! Lioness1:)
     
  3. Sapphire's Strike

    Sapphire's Strike Administrator Staff Member

    Both of these companies are a scam, which I think you may already know from posts seen on Fraudwatchers.

    http://www.v-marine.ru/
    ООО "Викинг Марине"
410016, Россия, Саратов ,Дегтярная ул, 38
тел : +7 (93) 726-999-10
факс:+7 (93) 726-999-19
e-mail: sales@v-marine.ru
    www.v-marine.ru

    domain:********V-MARINE.RU
    nserver:****** ns3.nic.ru.
    nserver:****** ns4.nic.ru.
    nserver:****** ns8.nic.ru.
    state:******** REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
    org:********** JSC "Vikmar"
    registrar:**** RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
    admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
    created:****** 2013.04.09
    paid-till:**** 2014.04.09
    free-date:**** 2014.05.10
    source:********TCI

    see: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=171460


    http://www.stockwaste.ru/
    Company address: 410050, Russian Federation,Saratov,Komsomolskaya 2
    E-mail: sales@stockwaste.ru
    
Tel: +7(8452)932-857
Fax: +7(8452)932-859
    www.stockwaste.ru

    domain:********STOCKWASTE.RU
    nserver:****** ns3.nic.ru.
    nserver:****** ns4.nic.ru.
    nserver:****** ns8.nic.ru.
    state:******** REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
    org:********** JSC "Intour"
    registrar:**** RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
    admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
    created:****** 2013.03.30
    paid-till:**** 2014.03.30
    free-date:**** 2014.04.30
    source:********TCI

    see: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/printthread.php?t=44495&pp=20&page=78

    We regret to learn that you have already lost money with these thieves.

    We must point out that we are not a due-dilligence site. There are companies, which you will find on the web, who do this work for a fee.

    HUGE RED FLAG as both these sites are new and valid for only one year.
     
  4. Miyuki

    Miyuki Administratrix Staff Member

    @ munshiexim, as Sapphire's Strike says, we are not here to do your due diligence. If you have a question about a website and your research is inconclusive you may ask about it here.

    We are also not a business website. We deal with Internet fraud. If you have a question you can send a PM to a mod or do some research on business operations.

    If you have legal counsel in your country you need to use your legal counsel. They are familiar with contract law.

    If it looks too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.
     
  5. munshiexim

    munshiexim New Member

    thank you for this help.

    i have contacted embassies of russia and several other countries in india.

    they re-plied that they only deal with political issues no business related work.

    they forwarded me to their respective chamber of commerce.

    i sent them mails even called them....but the chamber of commerce also did not respond to me.

    i am not worried about the money i lost.i just need to find some new legitimate companies with whom i can do long-term business.

    i have so far contacted malaysian,russian and gabon chamber of commerce for this purpose.

    but no one has ever replied till now.

    any way, i have saved all the emails recieved the russian scammers,i have no problem in sharing them with you.

    just guide me how to share the mails with you,as i am not very much tech savvy.
     
  6. De Master Yoda

    De Master Yoda Administrator Staff Member

    @munshiexim. We are a volunteer group that use our resources to help people who are in a scam situation.

    We do not check companies or organizations for business people. To check on any company you may be dealing with, then you can google their details and do a due diligence check yourself.

    There are business groups in your area that may be able to help you, here is one.

    http://www.gujaratchamber.org/



    Contact us
    Send us Mail via Post
    Gujarat Chamber of Commerce & Industry
    Shri Ambica Mills - Gujarat Chamber Building,
    Ashram Road,
    Ahmedabad - 380 009. INDIA

    Telecommunication
    Phone : (O) 00-91-79-2658 23 01/2/3/4
    Fax : 00-91-79-2658 79 92

    Send us an E-mail
    General Information
    bis@gujaratchamber.org
    President
    president@gujaratchamber.org
    Events & Exhibitions
    gccievents@gujaratchamber.org
    Articles for Bulletin
    vimarsh@gujaratchamber.org
    Secretary General
    secretarygeneral@gujaratchamber.org


    As they are fellow businessmen they should be able to help you. Thank you.
     
  7. munshiexim

    munshiexim New Member

    gujrat chamber of commerce has details of only gujrati businesses

    they don't do anything for us other than marketing.
     
  8. munshiexim

    munshiexim New Member

    i am not able to find out domain registry and whois details

    www.karatsialis.gr

    its domain registry details and whois info are not available on various sites i checked.even though the site works completely fine.
     
  9. Nanook

    Nanook Administrator Staff Member

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    De Master Yoda Administrator Staff Member

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