this is how i lost 3000 USD in order to buy copper scrap for my business purpose

#1
i am a merchant importer of scrap based in gujrat,india.

i have already met with fraud and lost some money.

i want to use your services to help me prevent from these frauds.

the following 2 companies

www.v-marine.ru

www.stockwaste.ru

have cheated me by offering copper wire scrap of 99% purity at 200 USD/MT

i am still recieving various offers from malaysian,chinese and african
suppliers.

all supply me goods at lower price than LME

some have even agreed with SGS report for quality and quantity and
payment by L/C

but now i face trouble in trusting people.

please give me some tips which help me do my business safely
 
#2
@munshiexim

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Sapphire's Strike

Administrator
Staff member
#3
Both of these companies are a scam, which I think you may already know from posts seen on Fraudwatchers.

http://www.v-marine.ru/
ООО "Викинг Марине"
410016, Россия, Саратов ,Дегтярная ул, 38
тел : +7 (93) 726-999-10
факс:+7 (93) 726-999-19
e-mail: sales@v-marine.ru
www.v-marine.ru

domain:********V-MARINE.RU
nserver:****** ns3.nic.ru.
nserver:****** ns4.nic.ru.
nserver:****** ns8.nic.ru.
state:******** REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org:********** JSC "Vikmar"
registrar:**** RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
created:****** 2013.04.09
paid-till:**** 2014.04.09
free-date:**** 2014.05.10
source:********TCI

see: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=171460


http://www.stockwaste.ru/
Company address: 410050, Russian Federation,Saratov,Komsomolskaya 2
E-mail: sales@stockwaste.ru

Tel: +7(8452)932-857
Fax: +7(8452)932-859
www.stockwaste.ru

domain:********STOCKWASTE.RU
nserver:****** ns3.nic.ru.
nserver:****** ns4.nic.ru.
nserver:****** ns8.nic.ru.
state:******** REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org:********** JSC "Intour"
registrar:**** RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
created:****** 2013.03.30
paid-till:**** 2014.03.30
free-date:**** 2014.04.30
source:********TCI

see: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/printthread.php?t=44495&pp=20&page=78

We regret to learn that you have already lost money with these thieves.

We must point out that we are not a due-dilligence site. There are companies, which you will find on the web, who do this work for a fee.

HUGE RED FLAG as both these sites are new and valid for only one year.
 

Miyuki

Administratrix
Staff member
#4
@ munshiexim, as Sapphire's Strike says, we are not here to do your due diligence. If you have a question about a website and your research is inconclusive you may ask about it here.

We are also not a business website. We deal with Internet fraud. If you have a question you can send a PM to a mod or do some research on business operations.

If you have legal counsel in your country you need to use your legal counsel. They are familiar with contract law.

If it looks too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.
 
#5
thank you for this help.

i have contacted embassies of russia and several other countries in india.

they re-plied that they only deal with political issues no business related work.

they forwarded me to their respective chamber of commerce.

i sent them mails even called them....but the chamber of commerce also did not respond to me.

i am not worried about the money i lost.i just need to find some new legitimate companies with whom i can do long-term business.

i have so far contacted malaysian,russian and gabon chamber of commerce for this purpose.

but no one has ever replied till now.

any way, i have saved all the emails recieved the russian scammers,i have no problem in sharing them with you.

just guide me how to share the mails with you,as i am not very much tech savvy.
 

De Master Yoda

Administrator
Staff member
#6
@munshiexim. We are a volunteer group that use our resources to help people who are in a scam situation.

We do not check companies or organizations for business people. To check on any company you may be dealing with, then you can google their details and do a due diligence check yourself.

There are business groups in your area that may be able to help you, here is one.

http://www.gujaratchamber.org/



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As they are fellow businessmen they should be able to help you. Thank you.
 
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